A Danae of All Trades

Yeah, I'm silly that way. I have suspicions that not many people will have IQs in the low range. Not on my Friends list, anyway. Most people either have a high IQ, or don't know their IQ because when it was tested, it was in the normal range and nothing for their parents to remind them of.

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plymouth.livejournal.com

I was tested once in 2nd grade but they never told me the actual number. I was just told it was "above average". So I'm mostly guessing.

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dagibbs.livejournal.com

I haven't done an IQ test that I trust, that is one that didn't have questions that seemed to test things like vocabulary, or familiarity with science, or the precepts of western society. I don't remember having an IQ number bantered around when I was a kid -- but I was put in enriched/gifted programs, so I was probably tested. My parents may just have decided I didn't need to know the numbers. (They were probably right.)

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gentlescholar.livejournal.com

IQ tests measure what IQ tests measure. My score has dropped over 30 points over the years; later it climbed about fifteen. I don't think I've gotten "dumber" or "smarter".

It's a very good idea NOT to tell kids their IQ, they will read importance into it that it doesn't deserve. Certainly when I found out my scores, I was extremely upset for a long time, and there's no good reason for it.

Oh, and on that 1-9 scale, it was hard to figure what to use for increments. I decided to go with standard deviations from the mean. But hey, it's all subjective anyway.

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IQs are often normalised on a stanine scale, in which 4-6 are average, nine is very gifted, and 1-2 are "barely verbal." Those with IQs in the range between 140-160 are probably in the 6-8 range on this scale.

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Interestingly, people are mostly rating themselves as 7, and the mean IQ so far is 147 or thereabouts with a median of 140.

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Which shows one of two things: a) you have a lot of smart people on your friends list, or b) average people have a tendency to believe themselves to be above-average. Probably, you've got some of both effects going on here, though I don't know most of the people on your list so I'm not in a position to judge.

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I agree with what you are saying about IQs... I have serious IQ issues because of knowing my IQ. Intellectually, I know that IQ is not everything. But emotionally, it bothers me that I have the lowest IQ I see in my crowd... Even right now, so far of those who have responded, I'm the lowest IQ who has responded, and the only person who selected that number. Yet, I know many people with IQs higher than me who, in their every day life, quite frankly come across as vastly less intelligent. It's frustrating.

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Really specific tests exist for verbal skills, math skills, spatial thinking etc. You probably score high like me in a particular area. If tht number is high enough or if the IQ test favors that type of testing (say spatial) you will score statistically higher.

These type of tests are called Composite or Full scale. They combine a bit from all individual measures (spatial, math, verbal, factual knowledge, memory, sequential reasoning, analogical reasoning) individual tests on any of these areas could reveal a budding genius or idiot(eg. my mathmatics is about 85-88 but my factual knowledge is 180+). You may be far more encourged by their results.

Knowing what each of your "numbers" are can help to illuminate where your strengths and weaknesses lie.

The National Association for Gifted Children reminds parents that Intelligence is:
* Intelligence is multi-faceted;
* Intelligence is displayed in many different ways;

I think as we get better at learning what makes individuals smart th better we can make sure they get to where they need to be study wise and life career path wise.

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polkamadness.livejournal.com

There's a fair amount of error on any one taking of an IQ test; have you tried converting your SAT score into an IQ number?

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tshuma

Aren't they testing somewhat different things?

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polkamadness.livejournal.com

Only somewhat; the correlation with IQ is pretty high (.70?) if I remember rightly.

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I was tested formally once when I was a child, and since then have done many self tests on supposedly culturally blind IQ tests. It always comes out about the same.

The first metric I found translated my SAT scores into being identical to my IQ, but it also translated the 1600 perfect score as being about 133.

Of course, when I first started doing SAT practice tests, my math ranged from 600-680, and my verbal ranged from 700-800. I took a prep course, and when I finally went and took the official test, I got 740 on both.

http://www.eskimo.com/~miyaguch/sat.html
Based on my official scores, these charts put me at well over 137 by both measures (the analogy between IQ and SATs breaks down beginning at 137, on that chart).

But based on my pre-prep course scores, it puts me at about my usual IQ score for math, and well over 137 for verbal.

*shrug* I try not to let it bother me, but it comes up occasionally. The irony is that I don't know many who I consider to be as or more intelligent as me in a practical, every day life kind of way... and yet many of the people with whom I interact have much higher IQs. *shrug*

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polkamadness.livejournal.com

The irony is that I don't know many who I consider to be as or more intelligent as me in a practical, every day life kind of way... and yet many of the people with whom I interact have much higher IQs. *shrug*

Have you ever been to a Mensa meeting? There's a reason most Mensa members aren't well off. :-)

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Yeah... I feel like there's a type of intelligence I have which is not at all measured well by IQ. When it comes to emotional intelligence (self awareness, interpersonal interactions, etc.) in particular, I find that I am about on par, for the most part, with people who are at least ten years older than me, if not older.

This is causing some really difficult interactions for me, as the people who I feel are my equals are all old enough that by and large, they already have a life partner or two and all I get to be is the secondary or to join in on their relationship. I'm pretty frustrated... I hardly know anyone even close to my age who I consider date-worthy material, and those who I might consider date-worthy are already in a primary or monogamous relationship.

And then there's the ability to quickly and easily break things down to the essence of the point, to categorize and organize things in a useful, meaningful fashion. Pattern matching. This, I think, is better measured by IQ tests than the former type of intelligence, but I still feel like I'm better at this than my IQ indicates. *shrug*

That was way more than you probably wanted! Ah, well. :)

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My degree is a three year College equivalent.

My school is bottom wrung because it was a college that was more technically focused and alternate. I got into and qualified for University of Toronto but only attended a semester when I realized it was not for me.

I heard TSA was restructured but I couldn't find any info on the restructuring until recently.

My school has now been restructured and become a full-time alternative school. However it has broken with OCAD which I'm not happy about. The OCAD connection allowed for great access to good equipment and facilities and kept thir standards high. Now I'm not sure what sets them apart and what standards will be like.

http://www.tsa-art.ca/main2.htm

When I went we had some of the most talented grads I can remember in while. The grad exhibits got lots of praise by other schools as well. The infamous Eli Langer was a consultant/teacher there for a while. (I was taught by his wife/gf).

I'm not sure if they are positioning themsleves as a prestegious private school now or an alternative to OCAD, York or Sheridan (the best college locally for art).

I also went to Sheridan for illustration (one semester), Glass (one year) and Library and Info tech (2 years).

I rate my intelligence at about a 6.55 (closer to 7 than 6 but just)on your 1-9 scale.

It is alright if this is not private or filtered I am not embarased of my academic/socio-economic background or IQ, or my difficulty with organized teaching methods. I think of it as a small part of my shortcomings and large part of theirs.

I have heard things are better now. That is why I have put so much musings into returning. Smart but difficult kids may be having an easier time of it now.

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Just checked the site and they are really, really small now. 3 studios basically..I am sad.

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I just wrote above: If you were in a three year program, and it was a feeder program that qualified you for advanced standing in a four year program, select "part of a four year program." Otherwise, select the two year program option, and I will understand that it includes some three year programs.

You did a lot of programs, sweetie! At some point I should discuss the chronology with you because I know I don't have it 'straight' in my head yet.

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cos

"What did you study?" should be checkboxes, not radio buttons. Someone can double major, or get a masters in one subject and a graduate degree in a different one. Now it makes me feel like I can't answer this poll, because I can't answer that question correctly :)
(I think I'll just skip it)

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qedrakmar.livejournal.com

I was going to say pretty much this, as well as think that there should be an option in the first question to reflect it. I, myself, spent many years as an undergrad and never finished any of my 4 majors, due to scheduling and money (and poor judgment in picking up so many extra majors).

I need a "some of multiple 4-year programs" option...

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Similarly: teachers' college is officially a bachelor's program, but it requires a previous bachelor's degree to get in, so from your options, the master's or equivalent was closest.

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angel-thane.livejournal.com

I would have imagined that the Law option, also being a second entry bachelors degree, would have been closest.

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Perhaps. Maybe it should have been phrased as "professional degree, post-B.A."?

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bluedaisy.livejournal.com

I haven't had an IQ test since I was 7, so I have *no idea*. My parents didn't much care about it, so I was never told the results---but it did apparently get me into the G&T program. *shrug*

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tocityguy.livejournal.com

A few things.

1. My IQ, last it was rated, was at 135 - right in the middle of 130 and 140. (I rounded)

2. Computers are generally considered a math, not engineering (despite the protests from the Microsoft Certified Engineers)

3. My college diploma was a three year degree and so it didn't fit well in your survey.

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Mine was a three year so I chose "some 4 year". I don't now if that agrees with the theories in play but...

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http://users.livejournal.com/_duncan/

2. Computers are generally considered a math, not engineering (despite the protests from the Microsoft Certified Engineers)

General engineering, the two year program, involves some relatively serious math in dynamics and statistics.

Electronic engineering (EL) included loads of fun with partial differential equations in (circuit) network analysis and a bit of relativity thrown in as a Pythonesque asside.

Computer engineering, at least in the days before multi-GHz clocks and impedence-matched microstripline busses, was the fallback four year program of choice, something comparitively easy that the failing EL's with adequate programming skills could switch to before falling off the train.

Associating with rather a lot from the other side of the fence, computer scientists (CSc), those who write the code instead of those who design the hardware to run it, I was fairly shocked at how little math background they had. Software was producing answers based on assumptions made by people who didn't grasp the math behind the model that should have been implemented in the program.

That degree program needed more math. If it now has it this is a turn for the better.

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polywolf.livejournal.com

What would you consider Sheridan College?

I took a 3yr program including co-op. So i wasn't sure how to answer that question.

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